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Below are some builds we have tested with. Go ahead and take a look based on what you have and see what is needed to get it connected. If what you have matches but get an error still, look at Haystack Troubleshooting to see if your issue can be resolved from there.

It is recommended to always verify if the same credentials work when connecting to the station via browser. If not, likely you have incorrect credentials or you have N4 with basic authentication set up on user which doesn't allow you to connect via browser or station. If the latter, then you are fine, otherwise you'll need to figure out why you can't connect through the browser first before even trying in FIN Stack. If you can't hit it in the browser, then chances are you won't hit it with FIN Stack either.

Where to find "HTTPBasicScheme"? This can be found in your Baja module on the Palette. Just add that to your Authentication Scheme Service.

Also, just a side note, we have heard Tridium has a bug when migrating users from AX to N4. Something about the authentication is broken. So it is recommended to create a new super/admin user and use that to connect to FIN Stack.

You can find the nHaystack modules N4 here (soon to add AX): https://stackhub.org/package/nHaystack (in the mean time for AX, you can find them here: https://bitbucket.org/richiemac_77/nhaystack/downloads/)

The below FIN Stack versions are referring to the framework version not build version.

HTTP Configuration with Standard FIN

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Install

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AX3.7.106.1 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.7.106.1 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.8.213 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic = works
AX3.8.213 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.8.311 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic = works
AX3.8.311 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
N4.2.36.38 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = works
N4.2.36.38 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.3.58.18 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.3.58.18 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.4.73.24 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.4.73.24 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.7.109 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.1.2, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.7.109 with FIN Stack v3.0.18 - nHaystack v2.1.2, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = works

HTTPS Configuration with Standard FIN

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Install

Code Block
AX3.7.106.1 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.7.106.1 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.8.213 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic = works
AX3.8.213 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
AX3.8.311 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic = works
AX3.8.311 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v1.3.0, AuthScheme as Basic/Digest = works
N4.2.36.38 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = works
N4.2.36.38 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.3.58.18 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.3.58.18 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.4.73.24 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.4.73.24 with FIN Stack v3.0.13 - nHaystack v2.0.1, AuthScheme as HTTPBasicScheme = works
N4.7.109 with FIN Stack v2.1.15 - nHaystack v2.1.2, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = doesn't work with original haystack pod (need custom haystack pod, look below)
N4.7.109 with FIN Stack v3.0.18 - nHaystack v2.1.2, AuthScheme as DigestScheme = works

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For AX3.5, you will need a concurrent jar - https://project-haystack.org/forum/topic/306

Custom Haystack Pod - N4.3+ with FIN

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v2.1.15

If you are trying to connect to a N4.3.58.18 station or newer via FIN Stack v2.1.15 use the below custom pod. This will allow you to connect to AX and N4 stations simultaneously. You'll need to do the below steps:

  1. Install latest nhaystack jar files for N4 here: https://stackhub.org/package/nHaystack

    1. How to install nhaystack jar modules here.

  2. Add NHaystackService to services container (go to palette and find nhaystack)

  3. Then right click on NHaystackService to Initialize it

  4. Make sure web service http or https ports are open depending on which you use

  5. Create a new user account and set Authentication Scheme as DigestScheme

  6. Thats it on the Niagara side, then on the FIN Framework side, stop the service

  7. Install this custom haystack pod in the fan folder in the FIN Stack directory (Should look something like this: C:\Program Files (x86)\FIN StackFramework0\FIN Stack Framework <your version>\lib\fan): 
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B1W9RPvJltGRjWNKh4HO9yVl8Yx8-BwA/view?usp=sharing

  8. Start the service and you should be good.

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